{"id":8752,"date":"2025-09-04T23:04:32","date_gmt":"2025-09-05T06:04:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/?p=8752"},"modified":"2025-09-04T23:05:33","modified_gmt":"2025-09-05T06:05:33","slug":"catching-up-on-climate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/catching-up-on-climate\/","title":{"rendered":"Catching Up On Climate"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"8752\" class=\"elementor elementor-8752\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-caec5f3 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"caec5f3\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-no\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-29cef5a3\" 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\/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e94817b elementor-widget__width-auto episode-number elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"e94817b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"bb-theme-elementor-wrap bb-elementor-custom-color bb-elementor-custom-size\">\t\t\t\tEpisode 1\t\t\t\t<\/div>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-af3e142 elementor-widget__width-auto series-name elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"af3e142\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"bb-theme-elementor-wrap bb-elementor-custom-color bb-elementor-custom-size\">\t\t\t\tCatching Up On Climate\t\t\t\t<\/div>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-878a3a4 elementor-widget elementor-widget-theme-post-title elementor-page-title elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"878a3a4\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"theme-post-title.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\"><a href=\"https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/catching-up-on-climate-episode-1-david-shukman\/\">David Shukman, Journalist &amp; Former Science Editor, BBC<\/a><\/h3>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3afa744 elementor-align-left elementor-widget elementor-widget-post-info\" data-id=\"3afa744\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"post-info.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<ul class=\"elementor-inline-items elementor-icon-list-items 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data-id=\"2bf67765\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-7b8e4269\" data-id=\"7b8e4269\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-67f96861 elementor-widget elementor-widget-html\" data-id=\"67f96861\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"html.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<iframe title=\"Catching Up On Climate Episode 1 | David Shukman, Journalist & Former Science Editor, BBC\" allowtransparency=\"true\" height=\"150\" width=\"100%\" style=\"border: none; min-width: min(100%, 430px);height:150px;\" scrolling=\"no\" data-name=\"pb-iframe-player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.podbean.com\/player-v2\/?i=ppnbz-1956624-pb&from=pb6admin&share=1&download=1&rtl=0&fonts=Arial&skin=1&font-color=auto&logo_link=none&btn-skin=c73a3a\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/iframe>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-17e38e96 episode-info elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"17e38e96\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-77dc1eba\" data-id=\"77dc1eba\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-368cb26e elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"368cb26e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>This week, we kick off our new series, <strong>Catching Up On Climate<\/strong>, where we&#8217;ll be discussing the state of the climate, the energy transition, and carbon markets going into Climate Week New York City 2025.<\/p><p>We begin our new series by welcoming David Shukman back into the SmarterMarkets\u2122 studio. Shukman is a journalist and former Science Editor at the BBC. SmarterMarkets\u2122 host David Greely sits down with Shukman to catch up on how our experience of climate change is becoming more local and immediate, how governments and corporations are responding, and how the stories we tell \u2013 and the way we tell them \u2013 must adapt to help us confront this changing reality.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b0c7988 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"b0c7988\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><a href=\"http:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/SM247_DavidShukman_TranscriptFinal.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Download full transcript \u2192<\/a><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-700a320a elementor-widget-divider--view-line elementor-widget 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class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tDavid Greely\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-78704b87 episode-qa elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"78704b87\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-no\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-56879482\" data-id=\"56879482\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/article>\n\t\t\t\t<article id=\"post-8781\" class=\"elementor-post elementor-grid-item ecs-post-loop post-8781 post type-post status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-catching-up-on-climate category-episode tag-carbon tag-carbon-abatement tag-carbon-capture-technology tag-carbon-finance tag-carbon-footprint tag-carbon-markets tag-carbon-reduction-projects tag-compliance-carbon-markets tag-energy-policy tag-greenhushing tag-voluntary-carbon-markets pmpro-has-access\">\n\t\t\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"loop\" data-elementor-id=\"499\" class=\"elementor elementor-499 post-8781 post type-post status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-catching-up-on-climate category-episode tag-carbon tag-carbon-abatement tag-carbon-capture-technology tag-carbon-finance tag-carbon-footprint tag-carbon-markets tag-carbon-reduction-projects tag-compliance-carbon-markets tag-energy-policy tag-greenhushing tag-voluntary-carbon-markets pmpro-has-access default-fi\" 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class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/catching-up-on-climate-episode-2-alexia-kelly\/\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" width=\"960\" height=\"540\" src=\"https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/SM248_Alexia-Kelly_1920-X-1080-960x540.png\" class=\"attachment-medium_sixteen_nine size-medium_sixteen_nine wp-image-8782\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/SM248_Alexia-Kelly_1920-X-1080-960x540.png 960w, https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/SM248_Alexia-Kelly_1920-X-1080-768x432.png 768w, https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/SM248_Alexia-Kelly_1920-X-1080-1536x864.png 1536w, https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/SM248_Alexia-Kelly_1920-X-1080-320x180.png 320w, https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/SM248_Alexia-Kelly_1920-X-1080-640x360.png 640w, https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/SM248_Alexia-Kelly_1920-X-1080-1280x720.png 1280w, https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/SM248_Alexia-Kelly_1920-X-1080-624x351.png 624w, https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/SM248_Alexia-Kelly_1920-X-1080.png 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 960px) 100vw, 960px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e94817b elementor-widget__width-auto episode-number elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"e94817b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"bb-theme-elementor-wrap bb-elementor-custom-color bb-elementor-custom-size\">\t\t\t\tEpisode 2\t\t\t\t<\/div>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-af3e142 elementor-widget__width-auto series-name elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"af3e142\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"bb-theme-elementor-wrap bb-elementor-custom-color bb-elementor-custom-size\">\t\t\t\tCatching Up On Climate\t\t\t\t<\/div>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-878a3a4 elementor-widget elementor-widget-theme-post-title elementor-page-title elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"878a3a4\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"theme-post-title.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\"><a href=\"https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/catching-up-on-climate-episode-2-alexia-kelly\/\">Alexia Kelly, Managing Director of Carbon Policy and Markets Initiative, High Tide Foundation<\/a><\/h3>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3afa744 elementor-align-left elementor-widget elementor-widget-post-info\" data-id=\"3afa744\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"post-info.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<ul class=\"elementor-inline-items elementor-icon-list-items elementor-post-info\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<li class=\"elementor-icon-list-item elementor-repeater-item-12c436a elementor-inline-item\" itemprop=\"datePublished\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-icon-list-text elementor-post-info__item elementor-post-info__item--type-date\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<time>September 13, 2025<\/time>\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/li>\n\t\t\t\t<li class=\"elementor-icon-list-item elementor-repeater-item-5ac02e0 elementor-inline-item\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/catching-up-on-climate-episode-2-alexia-kelly\/\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-icon-list-text elementor-post-info__item elementor-post-info__item--type-custom\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tEpisode Details \u2192\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/li>\n\t\t\t\t<\/ul>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-93821b8 elementor-widget-divider--view-line elementor-widget elementor-widget-divider\" data-id=\"93821b8\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"divider.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-divider\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-divider-separator\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8823fb4 elementor-widget elementor-widget-theme-post-content\" data-id=\"8823fb4\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"theme-post-content.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"8781\" class=\"elementor elementor-8781\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-4b7734a6 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"4b7734a6\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-4224dd42\" data-id=\"4224dd42\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3533bce5 elementor-widget elementor-widget-html\" data-id=\"3533bce5\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"html.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<iframe title=\"Catching Up On Climate Episode 2 | Alexia Kelly, Managing Director of Carbon Policy and Markets Initiative, High Tide Foundation\" allowtransparency=\"true\" height=\"150\" width=\"100%\" style=\"border: none; min-width: min(100%, 430px);height:150px;\" scrolling=\"no\" data-name=\"pb-iframe-player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.podbean.com\/player-v2\/?i=kjr8x-1962379-pb&from=pb6admin&share=1&download=1&rtl=0&fonts=Arial&skin=1&font-color=auto&logo_link=none&btn-skin=c73a3a\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/iframe>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-1b3d1ce9 episode-info elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"1b3d1ce9\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-5b1687e\" data-id=\"5b1687e\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2a4efbaa elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"2a4efbaa\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>We continue <strong>Catching Up On Climate<\/strong> this week by welcoming Alexia Kelly back into the SmarterMarkets\u2122 studio. Alexia is Managing Director of Carbon Policy and Markets Initiative at High Tide Foundation. David Greely sits down with Alexia to discuss what&#8217;s been happening beneath the quiet surface of the voluntary carbon markets in order to get them ready for prime time and unlock the institutional capital these markets need.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a78a9fb elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"a78a9fb\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><a href=\"http:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/SM248_AlexiaKelly_TranscriptFinal.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Download full transcript \u2192<\/a><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7b552f4f elementor-widget-divider--view-line elementor-widget elementor-widget-divider\" data-id=\"7b552f4f\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"divider.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-divider\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-divider-separator\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-79d0fa2a elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"79d0fa2a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"bb-theme-elementor-wrap bb-elementor-custom-color\">\t\t\t\t<p>Hosted By<\/p>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3d8b250f elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"3d8b250f\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tDavid 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ecs-post-loop post-8797 post type-post status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-catching-up-on-climate category-episode tag-carbon-abatement tag-carbon-credits tag-carbon-finance tag-carbon-markets tag-carbon-reduction-projects tag-climate tag-climate-action tag-climate-change tag-climate-finance tag-climate-risk pmpro-has-access\">\n\t\t\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"loop\" data-elementor-id=\"499\" class=\"elementor elementor-499 post-8797 post type-post status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-catching-up-on-climate category-episode tag-carbon-abatement tag-carbon-credits tag-carbon-finance tag-carbon-markets tag-carbon-reduction-projects tag-climate tag-climate-action tag-climate-change tag-climate-finance tag-climate-risk pmpro-has-access default-fi\" data-elementor-post-type=\"elementor_library\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-ebdf75f episodes-loop elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"ebdf75f\" data-element_type=\"section\" id=\"episodes-loop\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-no\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-da4bd50\" data-id=\"da4bd50\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-92bcdd6 elementor-hidden-mobile elementor-widget elementor-widget-theme-post-featured-image elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"92bcdd6\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"theme-post-featured-image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/catching-up-on-climate-episode-3-dirk-forrister\/\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" 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https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/SM249_Dirk-Forrister_1920-X-1080-624x351.png 624w, https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/SM249_Dirk-Forrister_1920-X-1080.png 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 960px) 100vw, 960px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e94817b elementor-widget__width-auto episode-number elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"e94817b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"bb-theme-elementor-wrap bb-elementor-custom-color bb-elementor-custom-size\">\t\t\t\tEpisode 3\t\t\t\t<\/div>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-af3e142 elementor-widget__width-auto series-name elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"af3e142\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"bb-theme-elementor-wrap bb-elementor-custom-color bb-elementor-custom-size\">\t\t\t\tCatching Up On Climate\t\t\t\t<\/div>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-878a3a4 elementor-widget elementor-widget-theme-post-title elementor-page-title elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"878a3a4\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"theme-post-title.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\"><a href=\"https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/catching-up-on-climate-episode-3-dirk-forrister\/\">Dirk Forrister, President &amp; CEO, International Emissions Trading Association (IETA)<\/a><\/h3>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3afa744 elementor-align-left elementor-widget elementor-widget-post-info\" data-id=\"3afa744\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"post-info.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<ul class=\"elementor-inline-items elementor-icon-list-items elementor-post-info\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<li class=\"elementor-icon-list-item elementor-repeater-item-12c436a elementor-inline-item\" itemprop=\"datePublished\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-icon-list-text elementor-post-info__item elementor-post-info__item--type-date\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<time>September 20, 2025<\/time>\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/li>\n\t\t\t\t<li class=\"elementor-icon-list-item elementor-repeater-item-5ac02e0 elementor-inline-item\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/catching-up-on-climate-episode-3-dirk-forrister\/\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-icon-list-text elementor-post-info__item elementor-post-info__item--type-custom\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tEpisode Details \u2192\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/li>\n\t\t\t\t<\/ul>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-93821b8 elementor-widget-divider--view-line elementor-widget elementor-widget-divider\" data-id=\"93821b8\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"divider.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-divider\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-divider-separator\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8823fb4 elementor-widget elementor-widget-theme-post-content\" data-id=\"8823fb4\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"theme-post-content.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"8797\" class=\"elementor elementor-8797\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-2abd0ab7 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"2abd0ab7\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-6c936ce6\" data-id=\"6c936ce6\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4d8a7499 elementor-widget elementor-widget-html\" data-id=\"4d8a7499\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"html.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<iframe title=\"Catching Up On Climate Episode 3 | Dirk Forrister, President & CEO, International Emissions Trading Association (IETA)\" allowtransparency=\"true\" height=\"150\" width=\"100%\" style=\"border: none; min-width: min(100%, 430px);height:150px;\" scrolling=\"no\" data-name=\"pb-iframe-player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.podbean.com\/player-v2\/?i=p8cii-196d275-pb&from=pb6admin&share=1&download=1&rtl=0&fonts=Arial&skin=1&font-color=auto&logo_link=none&btn-skin=c73a3a\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/iframe>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-61313457 episode-info elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"61313457\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-398cb9c8\" data-id=\"398cb9c8\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-326cd156 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"326cd156\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>On our third installment of <strong>Catching Up On Climate<\/strong>, we welcome Dirk Forrister, President &amp; CEO of IETA, back into the SmarterMarkets\u2122 studio. David Greely sits down with Dirk to discuss what he and IETA have been focused on this past year \u2013 and what he sees as some of the most important things happening in climate and the carbon markets ahead of IETA&#8217;s North America Climate Summit 2025.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-95c256b elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"95c256b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><a href=\"http:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/SM249_DirkForrister_TranscriptFinal.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Download full transcript \u2192<\/a><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-28c9847e elementor-widget-divider--view-line elementor-widget elementor-widget-divider\" data-id=\"28c9847e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"divider.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-divider\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-divider-separator\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6b13b243 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"6b13b243\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"bb-theme-elementor-wrap bb-elementor-custom-color\">\t\t\t\t<p>Hosted By<\/p>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-bee3dd4 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"bee3dd4\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tDavid Greely\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-118cd73 episode-qa elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"118cd73\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-no\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-379d9b10\" data-id=\"379d9b10\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/article>\n\t\t\t\t<article id=\"post-8834\" class=\"elementor-post elementor-grid-item ecs-post-loop post-8834 post type-post status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-catching-up-on-climate category-episode tag-article-6 tag-carbon-abatement tag-carbon-credits tag-carbon-finance tag-carbon-markets tag-carbon-trading tag-compliance-carbon-markets tag-corsia tag-voluntary-carbon-markets pmpro-has-access\">\n\t\t\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"loop\" data-elementor-id=\"499\" class=\"elementor elementor-499 post-8834 post type-post status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-catching-up-on-climate category-episode tag-article-6 tag-carbon-abatement tag-carbon-credits tag-carbon-finance tag-carbon-markets tag-carbon-trading tag-compliance-carbon-markets tag-corsia tag-voluntary-carbon-markets pmpro-has-access default-fi\" data-elementor-post-type=\"elementor_library\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-ebdf75f episodes-loop elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"ebdf75f\" data-element_type=\"section\" id=\"episodes-loop\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-no\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-da4bd50\" data-id=\"da4bd50\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-92bcdd6 elementor-hidden-mobile elementor-widget elementor-widget-theme-post-featured-image elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"92bcdd6\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"theme-post-featured-image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/catching-up-on-climate-episode-4-hannah-hauman\/\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"960\" height=\"540\" src=\"https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/SM250_Hannah-Hauman_1920-X-1080-960x540.png\" class=\"attachment-medium_sixteen_nine size-medium_sixteen_nine wp-image-8835\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/SM250_Hannah-Hauman_1920-X-1080-960x540.png 960w, https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/SM250_Hannah-Hauman_1920-X-1080-768x432.png 768w, https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/SM250_Hannah-Hauman_1920-X-1080-1536x864.png 1536w, https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/SM250_Hannah-Hauman_1920-X-1080-320x180.png 320w, https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/SM250_Hannah-Hauman_1920-X-1080-640x360.png 640w, https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/SM250_Hannah-Hauman_1920-X-1080-1280x720.png 1280w, https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/SM250_Hannah-Hauman_1920-X-1080-624x351.png 624w, https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/SM250_Hannah-Hauman_1920-X-1080.png 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 960px) 100vw, 960px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e94817b elementor-widget__width-auto episode-number elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"e94817b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"bb-theme-elementor-wrap bb-elementor-custom-color bb-elementor-custom-size\">\t\t\t\tEpisode 4\t\t\t\t<\/div>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-af3e142 elementor-widget__width-auto series-name elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"af3e142\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"bb-theme-elementor-wrap bb-elementor-custom-color bb-elementor-custom-size\">\t\t\t\tCatching Up On Climate\t\t\t\t<\/div>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-878a3a4 elementor-widget elementor-widget-theme-post-title elementor-page-title elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"878a3a4\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"theme-post-title.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\"><a href=\"https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/catching-up-on-climate-episode-4-hannah-hauman\/\">Hannah Hauman, Global Head of Carbon Trading, Trafigura<\/a><\/h3>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3afa744 elementor-align-left elementor-widget elementor-widget-post-info\" data-id=\"3afa744\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"post-info.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<ul class=\"elementor-inline-items elementor-icon-list-items elementor-post-info\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<li class=\"elementor-icon-list-item elementor-repeater-item-12c436a elementor-inline-item\" itemprop=\"datePublished\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-icon-list-text elementor-post-info__item elementor-post-info__item--type-date\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<time>September 27, 2025<\/time>\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/li>\n\t\t\t\t<li class=\"elementor-icon-list-item elementor-repeater-item-5ac02e0 elementor-inline-item\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/catching-up-on-climate-episode-4-hannah-hauman\/\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-icon-list-text elementor-post-info__item elementor-post-info__item--type-custom\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tEpisode Details \u2192\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/li>\n\t\t\t\t<\/ul>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-93821b8 elementor-widget-divider--view-line elementor-widget elementor-widget-divider\" data-id=\"93821b8\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"divider.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-divider\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-divider-separator\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8823fb4 elementor-widget elementor-widget-theme-post-content\" data-id=\"8823fb4\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"theme-post-content.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" 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Hauman, Global Head of Carbon Trading, Trafigura\" allowtransparency=\"true\" height=\"150\" width=\"100%\" style=\"border: none; min-width: min(100%, 430px);height:150px;\" scrolling=\"no\" data-name=\"pb-iframe-player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.podbean.com\/player-v2\/?i=hkej3-19770cf-pb&from=pb6admin&share=1&download=1&rtl=0&fonts=Arial&skin=1&font-color=auto&logo_link=none&btn-skin=c73a3a\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/iframe>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-5f62d3c0 episode-info elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"5f62d3c0\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-3263d18e\" data-id=\"3263d18e\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2e570857 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"2e570857\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>This week on <strong>Catching Up On Climate<\/strong>, we\u2019re celebrating our 250th episode of SmarterMarkets\u2122 with Hannah Hauman, Global Head of Carbon Trading at Trafigura. David Greely sat down with Hannah at the IETA North America Climate Summit in New York this week to catch up on how Article 6 and CORSIA are reshaping the global carbon markets. They discuss how countries are now framing their environmental goals, setting their climate ambitions, and building new compliance carbon emissions markets in a multipolar world.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c669408 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"c669408\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><a href=\"http:\/\/smartermarkets.media\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/SM250_HannahHauman_TranscriptFinal.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Download full transcript \u2192<\/a><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-517082ac elementor-widget-divider--view-line elementor-widget elementor-widget-divider\" data-id=\"517082ac\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"divider.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-divider\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-divider-separator\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3a03df5c elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"3a03df5c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"bb-theme-elementor-wrap bb-elementor-custom-color\">\t\t\t\t<p>Hosted By<\/p>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-254956eb elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"254956eb\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tDavid Greely\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-509d0128 episode-qa elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"509d0128\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-no\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-7310591b\" data-id=\"7310591b\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/article>\n\t\t\t\t<article id=\"post-8933\" class=\"elementor-post elementor-grid-item ecs-post-loop post-8933 post type-post status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-catching-up-on-climate category-episode tag-carbon-credits tag-carbon-markets tag-decarbonization tag-energy-markets tag-energy-policy tag-geopolitics tag-ieta tag-lng tag-market-infrastructure tag-nacs tag-sustainability tag-voluntary-carbon-markets pmpro-has-access\">\n\t\t\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"loop\" data-elementor-id=\"499\" class=\"elementor elementor-499 post-8933 post type-post status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-catching-up-on-climate category-episode tag-carbon-credits tag-carbon-markets tag-decarbonization tag-energy-markets tag-energy-policy tag-geopolitics tag-ieta tag-lng tag-market-infrastructure tag-nacs tag-sustainability tag-voluntary-carbon-markets pmpro-has-access default-fi\" data-elementor-post-type=\"elementor_library\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element 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